Is it very natural at all? My dog always throws up his raw chicken. He’s never had a problem with raw red meats before (even pork). Are dog’s stomachs more geared towards meat from hooved animals?
Just like anything else, some dogs can’t tolerate chicken. I have one dog who urps up chicken fat/skin but can eat chicken and bones just fine…. and NONE of my dogs will eat chicken that isn’t darned COLD.
I have 3 dogs (of 4) who don’t much like turkey.. it doesn’t make them sick, they just don’t like it… although they like turkey necks. I have one dog who would rather not eat pork roast but likes ribs etc… all of my dogs eat meat with bone a LOT better than just meat.
None of my dogs like whole organ meat (other than chicken livers) so I buy ground organ meat.
I maneuver their diets to fit them… and would suggest you do what works for your dogs.
Chicken is not a RED meat, it is Poultry.
< ——-Pilot is allergic to “chicken” and can not eat it at all. Maybe your dog is also allergic.
There are many highly respected people here with equally highly respected answers, that love the raw diet. I’m personally just not a supporter of the raw meat diet.
I just wanted to bring it to your attention that your dog may be allergic to chicken.
CALRIPKEN…………..Dogs are NOT in the wild anymore, they are now DOMESTICATED and have been for MANY years….many many years. Sorry, this is the one issue I don’t go along with though I’m a huge active poster. I’m a simple person with good answers, but….I just don’t go for the raw diet. HOWEVER, I DO RESPECT THOSE THAT CHOOSE TO GO THAT ROUTE. )
Eating raw meat can be natural for a dog, but most natural when the meat is freshly killed (for lack of a better term). I’m assuming you dont have a chicken farm, and are feeding him raw chicken you bought, which has a higher chance to have harmful bacteria on it. the same goes for pork. So unless it’s “fresh” meat, i’d be careful and just cook it anyway.
Okay, first of all- dogs ARE meant to eat raw meat. That’s what they would eat in the WILD!! They do not catch it, cook it, then eat it. They just catch it and eat it. Chickens included.
It may be something your dog specifically cannot tolerate. Or your dog needs to gradually get introduced to it because it’s a big difference between beef and chicken and your dog may be sensitive to it. So- try small amounts with beef and see how he handles it.
There is something called the Biologically Appropriate Raw Food diet for dogs and cats. I knew people that fed rabbit to their dogs. Just be careful of bones! (many fed them bones and all- but not sure I would). http://www.barfworld.com/http://www.starlitt.com/barf.htmlhttp://www.weim.net/riley/raw.htm
Glamour- you are comparing apples to oranges. Humans and apes have a different diet because we’re not the same species. But many do have an omnivorous diet, just like humans do. If we ate like apes- we’d probably be a lot healthier! Convenience and money as well as other things plays into the whys of why we don’t chomp on leaves, forage for bugs, eat fresh fruits, etc. But imagine all the health problems we wouldn’t have if we did!
Dogs ARE built to hunt and eat raw animals. Being domesticated does not eliminate the physiology of their digestive system and suddenly turn them into little people that require a cooked dinner on a plate with napkins and a fork. They still have the basic needs they’ve had for years. They just don’t have to go get it themselves- that’s the biggest difference.
Just because we provide them food in convenient little pellets doesn’t mean that’s what they’re now built to eat. The main reason we do that is convenience. For one- most of us don’t have the means to constantly buy animals for butcher or fresh animals from the butcher and 2- even those who could, many wouldn’t want to for a slew of reasons. So pelleted food is available as a convenient means to give the dog basics of what it needs. This does NOT MEAN it is the ideal diet for them. There is a very good biological basis for using B.A.R.F. diets. Dogs and cats on these diets tend to have lower incidents of skin allergies, obesity, and intolerance issues. This dog clearly has an issue- whether it’s simply something he’s not used to or is intolerant to remains to be seen!
We fed our dogs the B.A.R.F diet for years until it got to expensive. They were never as healthy and the vet said she had never seen such healthy teeth on adult dogs…
That being said, our dogs never had trouble with chicken. Maybe your dog has an allergy to chicken. It is possible. What breed is your dog? Some dogs are more prone to allergies than others. I have a rat terrier and the most common health problem they have are allergies.
If I were you I’d just stay away from chicken and feed other foods. I know chicken is pretty much one of the cheapest meats, but you don’t want to make your dog ill.
And no, dogs stomachs aren’t more geared towards the meat from hooved animals, necessarily. I think he probably has an allergy.
Good luck! If we could afford it we’d definately still feed raw food to our dogs. It’s the best.
I have been feeding raw chicken (leg quarters) to my dog for 3 years without any problem. She is a Catahoula. Before we got her we had 2 wolf hybrids that died at ages 12 and 13 that were fed raw chicken from the time they were pups. Never a problem and boy did they have great looking teeth! But if this is all you will be feeding, make sure they have a high quality dry dog food also. They need to have a complete balanced diet and the meat alone is not enough. I really don’t know why your dog would be throwing it up. Is your dog little or big? Maybe that would make a difference, I’m not sure. I would stay away from raw pork and definitely no raw lamb. There are some groups you could join that are very focused and knowledgeable about the raw meat topic.
Here is one I found by searching through Yahoo Groups.http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/Natur…
I am on a holistic diet for ferrets and a few people there feed there dogs raw. There would be more than happy to help you. Some dogs do have sensitivities and chicken is a major one. One awesome kibble tho is EVO. They sell it at some whole food stores. There is a store locator on the site.http://www.evopet.com/products/
Here is the holistic diet forum site. Just go to odds/ ends and then
select natural diet dogs/ cats. Ask your question and people will help.http://holisticferret.proboards80.com/in…
If you have a small dog you can buy the food for a good price here.http://stinkweasels.com/home.php?cat=258
first of all no dogs are suppose to have pork raw or cooked. theres WAY to much bacteria in it and it could even kill your dog. you should just feed it beef. chicken is good but if its throwing it up just do beef.
Hi – my dogs love raw chicken – I buy the wings from the supermarket and they crunch them up and adore them – one of my dogs got sick once when the chicken had salmonella – he was on antibiotics for a while. But on the whole he loves the raw chicken, bones and all – he’d like the feathers too I bet but I can’t get them unplucked! LOL
maybe he gulps it to fast? does it have the bones in? is it cut up? if it’s boneless he may just swallow too big a piece.
EDIT the skin is high in fat and some dogs cannot tolerate that – it can even lead to pancreatitis (my dog had that too! as a puppy when he ate a shedload of turkey skin after Christmas! )
Chicken tends to carry the most bacteria [i.e. salmonella and campylobacter] of common meats. If he’s having such a reaction, I would stop trying altogether, as Ikb said, he might be allergic– but mae sure you’re using natural, anti-biotic free, grain fed organic chicken that you have cleaned. Also, make sure you’re not feeding him the whole bones or very marbled [fatty] cuts. Organic turkey is also a good alternative to chicken, if you want to try something else.
**Also, you do understand that you should be incorperating other ingredients, right? You can buy raw/cooked meat ‘mix ins” online or combine your dog’s raw diet along with a dry food. If you’re just switching him to a pure meat diet, he’s probably going to end up eating too much protein and fat, which of course might give him an upset stomach.
***Dogs are not wild animals. Haven’t been for the past 100,000 years. Just because they are descendants of wild animals [wolves] doesn’t mean they are even similar in what their dietary demands. If you let a dog out into the wild, they will find a compassionate human and scavenge form their garbage. THAT is their instinct. Not every dog reacts well to being introduced to raw food. Diet is very dependent on the individual animal–you can not make a generalization about all dogs based upon their lineage. Humans are apes–doesn’t mean we can maintain the same diet as a gorilla. Sure we’ve had a little more time to evolve, but it’s the same principle. With that said, I think many owners are successful when maintaining a BARF diet with their animals, however–it requires a lot more than letting the dogs eat as they “naturally” would. Dogs have many different dietary needs than a wild animal.
Believe me i’m a dog expert.A dog shouldn’t be eating
raw meat.A dog’s stomach is very sensitive.Try at least feeding it
home cooked meals.Then i don’t think the dog will have a problem
with throwing up.Just try at least cooking the meat.oiled not fried.
Do not serve hot.
I wouldn’t feed him any raw meat, just as we wouldn’t eat it. Much safer cooked. The heat kills salmonella and other bacteria. Try to mix in grains and veggies as well. No onions! That’s poison for dogs.
No. If your dog has been eating raw meat, it must be the bones from the chicken. Make sure that large bones of chicken are not feed on dogs because they can choke a dog and can cause death. Good luck
Just like anything else, some dogs can’t tolerate chicken. I have one dog who urps up chicken fat/skin but can eat chicken and bones just fine…. and NONE of my dogs will eat chicken that isn’t darned COLD.
I have 3 dogs (of 4) who don’t much like turkey.. it doesn’t make them sick, they just don’t like it… although they like turkey necks. I have one dog who would rather not eat pork roast but likes ribs etc… all of my dogs eat meat with bone a LOT better than just meat.
None of my dogs like whole organ meat (other than chicken livers) so I buy ground organ meat.
I maneuver their diets to fit them… and would suggest you do what works for your dogs.
Chicken is not a RED meat, it is Poultry.
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< ——-Pilot is allergic to “chicken” and can not eat it at all. Maybe your dog is also allergic.
There are many highly respected people here with equally highly respected answers, that love the raw diet. I’m personally just not a supporter of the raw meat diet.
I just wanted to bring it to your attention that your dog may be allergic to chicken.
CALRIPKEN…………..Dogs are NOT in the wild anymore, they are now DOMESTICATED and have been for MANY years….many many years. Sorry, this is the one issue I don’t go along with though I’m a huge active poster. I’m a simple person with good answers, but….I just don’t go for the raw diet. HOWEVER, I DO RESPECT THOSE THAT CHOOSE TO GO THAT ROUTE.
Eating raw meat can be natural for a dog, but most natural when the meat is freshly killed (for lack of a better term). I’m assuming you dont have a chicken farm, and are feeding him raw chicken you bought, which has a higher chance to have harmful bacteria on it. the same goes for pork. So unless it’s “fresh” meat, i’d be careful and just cook it anyway.
Okay, first of all- dogs ARE meant to eat raw meat. That’s what they would eat in the WILD!! They do not catch it, cook it, then eat it. They just catch it and eat it. Chickens included.
It may be something your dog specifically cannot tolerate. Or your dog needs to gradually get introduced to it because it’s a big difference between beef and chicken and your dog may be sensitive to it. So- try small amounts with beef and see how he handles it.
There is something called the Biologically Appropriate Raw Food diet for dogs and cats. I knew people that fed rabbit to their dogs. Just be careful of bones! (many fed them bones and all- but not sure I would). http://www.barfworld.com/http://www.starlitt.com/barf.htmlhttp://www.weim.net/riley/raw.htm
Glamour- you are comparing apples to oranges. Humans and apes have a different diet because we’re not the same species. But many do have an omnivorous diet, just like humans do. If we ate like apes- we’d probably be a lot healthier! Convenience and money as well as other things plays into the whys of why we don’t chomp on leaves, forage for bugs, eat fresh fruits, etc. But imagine all the health problems we wouldn’t have if we did!
Dogs ARE built to hunt and eat raw animals. Being domesticated does not eliminate the physiology of their digestive system and suddenly turn them into little people that require a cooked dinner on a plate with napkins and a fork. They still have the basic needs they’ve had for years. They just don’t have to go get it themselves- that’s the biggest difference.
Just because we provide them food in convenient little pellets doesn’t mean that’s what they’re now built to eat. The main reason we do that is convenience. For one- most of us don’t have the means to constantly buy animals for butcher or fresh animals from the butcher and 2- even those who could, many wouldn’t want to for a slew of reasons. So pelleted food is available as a convenient means to give the dog basics of what it needs. This does NOT MEAN it is the ideal diet for them. There is a very good biological basis for using B.A.R.F. diets. Dogs and cats on these diets tend to have lower incidents of skin allergies, obesity, and intolerance issues. This dog clearly has an issue- whether it’s simply something he’s not used to or is intolerant to remains to be seen!
We fed our dogs the B.A.R.F diet for years until it got to expensive. They were never as healthy and the vet said she had never seen such healthy teeth on adult dogs…
That being said, our dogs never had trouble with chicken. Maybe your dog has an allergy to chicken. It is possible. What breed is your dog? Some dogs are more prone to allergies than others. I have a rat terrier and the most common health problem they have are allergies.
If I were you I’d just stay away from chicken and feed other foods. I know chicken is pretty much one of the cheapest meats, but you don’t want to make your dog ill.
And no, dogs stomachs aren’t more geared towards the meat from hooved animals, necessarily. I think he probably has an allergy.
Good luck! If we could afford it we’d definately still feed raw food to our dogs. It’s the best.
I have been feeding raw chicken (leg quarters) to my dog for 3 years without any problem. She is a Catahoula. Before we got her we had 2 wolf hybrids that died at ages 12 and 13 that were fed raw chicken from the time they were pups. Never a problem and boy did they have great looking teeth! But if this is all you will be feeding, make sure they have a high quality dry dog food also. They need to have a complete balanced diet and the meat alone is not enough. I really don’t know why your dog would be throwing it up. Is your dog little or big? Maybe that would make a difference, I’m not sure. I would stay away from raw pork and definitely no raw lamb. There are some groups you could join that are very focused and knowledgeable about the raw meat topic.
Here is one I found by searching through Yahoo Groups.http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/Natur…
I am on a holistic diet for ferrets and a few people there feed there dogs raw. There would be more than happy to help you. Some dogs do have sensitivities and chicken is a major one. One awesome kibble tho is EVO. They sell it at some whole food stores. There is a store locator on the site.http://www.evopet.com/products/
Here is the holistic diet forum site. Just go to odds/ ends and then
select natural diet dogs/ cats. Ask your question and people will help.http://holisticferret.proboards80.com/in…
If you have a small dog you can buy the food for a good price here.http://stinkweasels.com/home.php?cat=258
first of all no dogs are suppose to have pork raw or cooked. theres WAY to much bacteria in it and it could even kill your dog. you should just feed it beef. chicken is good but if its throwing it up just do beef.
i did this once the vet said something about dogs stomachs are sensitive to things in the chicken and this is what is causing it
Maybe it’s just your dog. I have 3 dogs and they love raw chicken! Maybe your dog is allergic or something.
Hi – my dogs love raw chicken – I buy the wings from the supermarket and they crunch them up and adore them – one of my dogs got sick once when the chicken had salmonella – he was on antibiotics for a while. But on the whole he loves the raw chicken, bones and all – he’d like the feathers too I bet but I can’t get them unplucked! LOL
maybe he gulps it to fast? does it have the bones in? is it cut up? if it’s boneless he may just swallow too big a piece.
EDIT the skin is high in fat and some dogs cannot tolerate that – it can even lead to pancreatitis (my dog had that too! as a puppy when he ate a shedload of turkey skin after Christmas! )
Chicken tends to carry the most bacteria [i.e. salmonella and campylobacter] of common meats. If he’s having such a reaction, I would stop trying altogether, as Ikb said, he might be allergic– but mae sure you’re using natural, anti-biotic free, grain fed organic chicken that you have cleaned. Also, make sure you’re not feeding him the whole bones or very marbled [fatty] cuts. Organic turkey is also a good alternative to chicken, if you want to try something else.
**Also, you do understand that you should be incorperating other ingredients, right? You can buy raw/cooked meat ‘mix ins” online or combine your dog’s raw diet along with a dry food. If you’re just switching him to a pure meat diet, he’s probably going to end up eating too much protein and fat, which of course might give him an upset stomach.
***Dogs are not wild animals. Haven’t been for the past 100,000 years. Just because they are descendants of wild animals [wolves] doesn’t mean they are even similar in what their dietary demands. If you let a dog out into the wild, they will find a compassionate human and scavenge form their garbage. THAT is their instinct. Not every dog reacts well to being introduced to raw food. Diet is very dependent on the individual animal–you can not make a generalization about all dogs based upon their lineage. Humans are apes–doesn’t mean we can maintain the same diet as a gorilla. Sure we’ve had a little more time to evolve, but it’s the same principle. With that said, I think many owners are successful when maintaining a BARF diet with their animals, however–it requires a lot more than letting the dogs eat as they “naturally” would. Dogs have many different dietary needs than a wild animal.
Believe me i’m a dog expert.A dog shouldn’t be eating
raw meat.A dog’s stomach is very sensitive.Try at least feeding it
home cooked meals.Then i don’t think the dog will have a problem
with throwing up.Just try at least cooking the meat.oiled not fried.
Do not serve hot.
I wouldn’t feed him any raw meat, just as we wouldn’t eat it. Much safer cooked. The heat kills salmonella and other bacteria. Try to mix in grains and veggies as well. No onions! That’s poison for dogs.
you shouldn’t even be feeding your dog people food. it is not good for them. especially chocolate. never feed them chocolate.
No. If your dog has been eating raw meat, it must be the bones from the chicken. Make sure that large bones of chicken are not feed on dogs because they can choke a dog and can cause death. Good luck
Thanks for the help but the fat he ate he took out of the trash I dont feed it to him