Raw Diet + Vets! My Little Experiment + Some Thought Provoking Questions!?
Remember I said I’d be taking a couple of my dogs to 2 new in town vets and purposely leave out the fact they were raw fed until after I inquired about how they felt about a raw diet? WELL…Friday afternoon I did!
1st Vet: After waiting for a while because they couldn’t find me in the computer, I was invited back. The vet (who will remain nameless) couldn’t believe how good Itor looked for his age and commented on how “nice” of a dog he is…(yeah right). I asked about how he felt about a raw diet and he went on about a 15 minute tirade of how it’s deadly and nearly animal abuse and how my dogs could die of Salmonella or E. Coli if switched to a raw diet. I asked if he had ever treated dogs with Salmonella or E. Coli poisoning he said yes, one case of E. Coli which was fatal…the cause? The dog ate recalled DOG FOOD…way to drive home your point there doc! Then I dropped the bomb: “Well Itor was weaned on raw hamburger as a 4 week old puppy and has eaten raw ever since…”…his response “Well…if he’s doing good on it, and he seemingly is, I wouldn’t change anything”.
2nd Vet: This place was a little more laid back, not as Ritzy…had a homey feel, I liked it! We went back to the exam room and everything was what you’d expect, I got a multitude of compliments from the Techs and Vet on Hannibal and his boyish handsomeness and great looking coat and muscle tone and again on Itor’s niceness -chuckles under breath-. So at the end of the “Everything looks GREAT” examination, I asked about the raw diet!
This time I was told the same banter, E. Coli, Salmonella…I again asked if she had ever treated a dog with either ailment, she admitted no she had not. She did however recall a woman who shows Amstaffs in my city (I’ve heard of her). She switched to raw (didn’t know you were supposed to feed organ meats) and her dogs went downhill (duh) and she finally switched back to kibble. The vet then told me she had “Never seen a dog fed a raw diet that impressed” her. I then told her the dogs she’d just examined had been fed a raw diet since 4-8 weeks of age…her response was “Well I can’t say I’ve never seen a raw fed dog who didn’t impress me anymore!”.
Legit: For those of you who feed raw diets, what do your vets think? For those who do not, Monday, why don’t you call in and ask what your vets think about a properly fed raw diet (one with organ and bone fed)? I’m sure the answers will be hilarious! And lastly for those AGAINST raw feeding, are your reasons the same as these vets, are you worried most about e. coli/salmonella…or is there something else that bothers you? No TD’s from me, everybody is welcomed to answer!
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Dr. Billinghurst was an amazingly realistic vet of his time… he actually stopped, noticed the issues, and realized the problems. Practicing both before and after dog food was widely introduced to Australia, I loved his first book.
Then he jumped on the BARF bandwagon and it all went downhill from there…. lol
I’m just dreading the sh*t list I’m going to be on with my A&P teacher for the next quarter…. is it because I interrupted him in the middle of class and told him he was wrong, not only on the feeding habits of wolves, but the wrong doings of RAW? lol
my vet keeps trying to get me to buy kibble. he hates that i raw feed. when we board the dog there he’s feed rice and cooked meat. go figure.
All I have to say is, my vet feeds raw, pretty awesome hey?
LOL this really made me laugh!! I was in a similar situation, went in the vet with my 22 month old husky and was told “gosh what brilliant teeth she has, amazing … she’s really gaining weight, so did you go with the canned food mixed in with the kibble?” NO (lol) “I didn’t actually, she’s on a RAW diet now with a little kibble” (room goes silent) same old jibba about the E Coli and what not.
My girl is fed:
Orijen kibble
and the wonderful
RAW diet of meaty bones, organs and meat..yuum says my husky!!!
Her weight is coming along much better (she was a little skinny), she is as healthy as a horse and her teeth are not only white but they are plaque free with no doggy breath odor!
My vet has never treated a dog with salmonella or E-coli,but a few of her clients who raw – feed have come down with it because the dogs drag it all over the house on their paws and face. She has also had a few dogs get obstructions from eating too much bone,or perforations from sharp bones. She does think that dogs can do well on a raw diet-if the owners know what they are doing,but that dogs can and do thrive just as well on a commercial diet and even some healthy table scraps. I have tried feeding my dogs raw and my mutt,Maggie,will not touch it,but my GSD and my Chihuahua happily eat bits of raw meat as a treat. None of them like raw eggs,though.
my guess is the vets are worried about those “hackjobs” you mentioned. raw diet is a good diet when done right and using common sense. problem is common sense aint so common so idiots, not knowing a thing about how to properly raw feed, started tossing their dogs the wrong kinda raw food and BAM, sick puppy.
personally, i have no problem with the raw feed diet when done properly.
I feed Raw and that has saved my dogs life. My Holistic Vet wants all her patients on a Raw Diet. She insists upon. My traditional vet was against it but she also knows how much research I put into my dog. However a few weeks ago I had to put my dog in a cooked diet, vets orders when he was having some trouble. As soon as we was on it he went down ill and my vet actually asked me to put him back to raw. As soon as he was he was fine. My regular vets are actually starting to suggest the Raw Diet to certain clients but my Holistic Vet is 110% for a Raw Diet. The Holistic Vets also have more knowledge on dog nutrition and are totally against many harmful things regular vets push.
I am like you I test my vets. I am happy with the group I have now but it does bring me great amusement to challenge them. I just believe you need not only to be your own health advocate but also your dogs. And you should not just on what others say. I laugh because most vets recommend Science Diet which is full of harmful ingredients. It is right on the label it does not take much undercover work. I use to break it down for them and then ask if they wanted me to feed the diet so my dog would be ill for their business.
Excellent question Curtis.
My mouse broke right in the middle of reading your question and it wouldn’t scroll. Had to get the car out in the snow and zoom to brothers to borrow one….. just had to read the rest.
Feel EXACTLY the same as you.
As for my vet – then he has enough respect for me that I know what I am doing (as a lay person) that he wouldn’t say a word and hasn’t. However the last couple of times I have been to the practise (with foster dogs) he hasn’t been there and I am wondering if they have put him at another surgery.
I might have an answer if I have a new vet. However ……. if I had any trouble about it I’d be walking and that’s that.
Loved the story and totally with you. I would also say to those that try it and give up within a day or so that one of the problems is that the stomach environment has had to be completely altered to accept and digest kibble to an unnatural ph balance that then puts a strain on all the organs of the body. When you first go raw, then the stomach has to get the correct acidic environment to tackle the raw food. This is however the natural state for a carnivores stomach.
Add on —- yikes — just read the first answer – turkey & salmon might not be the best to start with………. I don’t give salmon and rarely turkey. Chicken would be best. Just research before going full steam into turkey, don’t want anything going wrong now you are taking the plunge.
Hopefully Curtis can come in here with some advice as well please.
I love this discussion. Frank – I really appreciate your posts usually, but I’m afraid on this one I believe that is a little unfair.
Why don’t you go into the financial side of vet colleges and veterinary practices and see where they get a lot of their funding from ???? That might give you a clue as to why they try and put owners off of a raw diet.
Would you feed your children an all in one complete kibble, and do your children suffer with an imbalance from their food if well fed. And can you really be sure that kibble retains the goodness they say it does with the processing it has to go through. I’ll stick to my organic raw for sure.
I have been through 9 vets in the past 3 years, I can’t even find a vet with half a brain. Moving to another state next month, wish me luck there. I am always dumbfounded at the ignorance some vets have concerning care of dogs. I swear I have to go armed with a ton of information on MDR1 gene and teach a class on dogs before I can get the dog a shot. I really miss my old vet. It seems like an epidemic in the vet industry, finding someone with half a brain. Some of the kids on this site really are smarter than the college educated vets I have encountered lately.
Years and years ago I went to a vet that was hightly recommended to me by a friend. This vet wanted to put my chunky cat on a prescription weight loss formula. I looked at the ingredients and asked her how exactly she felt pumping my cat full of corn was going to help him loose weight. Her response: “well, it’s very high quality corn”. I never could bring myself to go back to her because of it.
Then, a few years back when I started feeding raw and told my vet, I got the same story you did. The biggest reason I ultimately made the decision to find a new vet is because I’m not interested in working with a vet who can’t get past my dog’s diet. I find that these vets tend to jump to conclusions if something happens with my dog – and the conclusion is inevitably the diet.
It’s no different from the police department conducting an investigation when they already think they have the suspect – they tend not to try as hard in finding other possibilities.
I am fortunate to have a holistic vet that feeds raw herself and is actually willing and able to help me make my diets better rather than tell me I’m wrong all the time. Also, any time anything happens with my pets, she always has a wide variety of options for treatment to offer me – from holistic to traditional.
Example: when my GSDx started showing joint pain (which I fully expected based on his hip x-rays when he was younger) the old vet had one thing to offer me: drugs. The new vet suggested everything from hydrotherapy, chiropractic treatments, herbal remedies, and massage therapy techniques as well as traditional drugs.
When it comes down to it, I know what I’m doing with my dog’s diet. I just don’t feel like fighting with my uninformed vet about it. I have also found myself preferring breeders who feed raw. I think that will definitely factor into my choice when I eventually look for a puppy. It just makes my life easier to deal with people who are like minded.
Lady hasn’t been to the vet since switching but sometime soon we are going to go. I know that my vet is going to try to talk me out of it. He endorses Science Diet. Last time we were there before switching to raw, he was going to start to recommend some dog food but I but in and said “she eats Taste of the Wild.” He looked down and said well that’s a good food in sort of a quiet voice. lol
What are those two little dots in the second picture?
That was very interesting. I had a lot of trouble when I switched my dogs to raw. Not with the dogs but with the vets. One has passed on but he had many health issues after being fed kibble most of his life and I am under no impression that the kibble killed him just that some dogs get sick no matter what you feed them.
I have fed Asuka my two year old German Shepherd raw most of her life. I got looks and nasty comments from my old vet so when I went to the new vet I brought a bag full of literature and asked for the most up to date vet in the place. I still don’t think they love it but they were pleased to see that I was doing my research. The woman I usually deal with seems to be much better about it than most the only thing said was to limit the amount of types of meat she ate. Not that she couldn’t eat variety but don’t feed her at least one or two inexpensive sources of meat. She said that even raw fed dogs can develop allergies to their main protein source.
I wish that I had a vet who was all for the raw diet but for now I am going to just live with one who will work with me. Thanks for sharing.
LOL, i LOVE this! I’m all about raw-feeding and believe dogs shouldn’t be fed any other way. I don’t have any vet stories though because I never even taken my dogs to the vet! I administer vaccines myself but I only give parvo, rabies, and distemper at 8, 12, and 16 weeks respectively. That’s it. I did have to go to the vets office to pick up some dewormer one time but I didn’t bring the dog and I didn’t discuss diet, but I would love to sometime.
Good for you! More dog owners need to start getting more educated about how to properly feed their dogs I think, cuz kibble just ain’t cuttin it!
Edit to Frank: I’ll break down here pretty much everything you said that was wrong:
1. Vets are taught in vet school that raw is dangerous so the commercial dog food companies that sponsor the classes can make money by pushing their brand of dog food (Science Diet).
2. Just because somebody is knowledgeable about the nutrition of their dog doesn’t mean they should go to vet school. This is just a very stupid statement you made (one of many).
3. Could you please tell me what is so “uneducated and crazy” about feeding an animal what it’s DESIGNED to eat?
4. Why don’t I eat raw meat? Cuz I’m not a carnivore. My stomach is not 50% hydrochloric acid like my dogs is. In that regard, dogs DO have “super” digestive system, which is designed to kill bacteria such as E. Coli and Salmonella.
5. Dog’s shouldn’t eat cat food because the TAURINE levels are much to high for a dog.
-Raw 5, Frank 0-
The only thing I agree with you about is that you must educate yourself how to properly feed a balanced raw diet. It’s not hard at all, but you certainly need to know how to do it. I don’t think any dummy should just throw their dog a whole chicken in the yard. Obviously. I like to think that most people aren’t that stupid though.
Edit to PSPP: a prey-model diet is NOT far too much protein. When fed properly, it is nearly the perfect amount of protein (it varies somewhere between 16 and 28%, depending on the meat). Meat is not ALL protein like you think, it has the amount of protein that carnivores are DESIGNED to consume! The BARF is the unbalanced one… it requires far too many species-inappropriate foods (veggies, fruits, sometimes grains) and also inappropriate supplements. Also, bacteria is not an issue. I’ve heard of many dogs being affected by bacteria in bad kibble, and have never ONCE heard of a dog getting sick form bacteria in raw meat, and I am in contact with literally thousands of raw feeders.
I never asked about it. He’s never said anything against it, he knows I feed a raw diet.
The only comment he made was the first time I went to him, and he just stated “make sure you know what you’re doing” haha.
I suppose it’d be entertaining to call around and see if there’s any pro-raw vets in the area. I highly doubt it, ignorance seems to be strong where i live
Im taking the plunge this weekend I think, Curtis.
I already know he doesn’t approve of it, but oh well, he can suck my big fat…..
(breasts, for those who lack imagination)…
My mentor gave me 2 frozen turkeys and like, 2 king salmon.
I need to make a few phone calls to secure a place to find bones, and then Im set. i have Meat and Organs covered.
Im sending off the last of what I owe to Emmy’s breeder on Monday, and after that i receive all her papers and shot records- I’ll be taking her for her next round of shots, and asking then
naughty mind, Curtis.
I can’t wait.
ADD: I’ve met a few people who feed raw in town, im getting excited to have local support.
My 2nd mentor (the one with the Staffies) said she wants to feed raw, maybe I can convince her to join me
I don’t know of any Vets that approve in town… yet.
I just remembered that My bitches’ pup has an appointment for vaccinations on Monday(?) with a vet I don’t use, but Im gonna ask her too
EDIT: Lorraine, im not starting with Turkey and Salmon- Im gonna start with Chicken boobies
i dont know its not something ive really looked into but i dont like raw meat i cant touch it i cant even walk past it in the supermarket so i would be no good preparing it
also i heard that feeding raw can give them a taste for blood and make them more agressive but i tought that might just be BS lol
I first began to question what I was shoveling down my dog’s throat when he was diagnosed with cancer & researched to find the optimum diet for him. I read “Foods Pets Die For”, by Anne Martin, which left me with even more questions about what went into *meat derivatives* & what was of *vegetable origin*.
Armed with questions about the meaning behind the ingredients, I contacted the customer service departments of various brands of kibble. A simple question at heart “is the meat used fit for human consumption?”, but I encountered endless dissembling or vague unhelpful answers. While human grade meat {organic aside} is adulterated by what is in the soil & pumped into the animals, the quality is more strictly regulated than that of meat for pet industry.
I now purchase the brand of kibble I can reasonably afford, with ingredients I like, which suits the individual dog for one meal & raw meat for the other meal. In the future I would like to switch to a complete raw meat {including organs} & bones diet for my dogs, so I know exactly what they are swallowing.
When I first semi switched to raw, my male Dobermann would vomit shortly after eating. I contacted my vet whose attitude was that why bother when kibble is a complete meal in a bag, but did not argue against my decision. I then contacted someone knowledgeable about raw feeding, who advised me to give my Dobe time to adjust & now he’s fine eating raw meat.
My current dog eats kibble and my mother doesn’t want to do a raw diet.
Though I think the next dog I get, I will try a raw diet on.
Well I do not Raw feed, but I’m also not entirely against it.
I have actually offered them little tid bits of Raw meat before…they ate it, but kept spitting it out…lol guess they were a little thrown off, since they have never had Raw meat before. They did not seem to care for it much.
My father is a butcher, so getting meat at a good price isn’t the problem either. The main reason I choose not to feed Raw is the fact that I have a 7 year old who interacts with my dogs daily & for sanitary purposes, I do not want my dogs eating raw meat & then licking my child with the same bacteria covered tongue. Basically, I don’t feed Raw for our own sanitary reasons. I think in all honesty, dogs can handle it though, I do not think the E. Coli or Salmonella is that big of a problem for them. Your talking about dogs…they eat dead things for crying out loud, so for a VET to say such a thing, makes me scratch my head as to why.
I’ve never asked my VET about the subject, but maybe I will now. I’m sort of curious what his take on it will be. (=
I asked this to my vet when Hercules was 4 months old he was against it and he expected for my dog to be small and malnourished because he wodn’t get the nutrients that commercial dog food offers, well i told him i was going to switch them to raw food in a prey mode kind of way because i thought it was better for them, well i had a big argument with him that ended in you will see, well Hercules is now 8 months old weights 80 lbs and 27.5 inches tall at the withers when he was 4 months old he weighted 43.9 lbs and was 22.3 inches tall at the withers, before i started him on raw. When I walked in to his office 2 days ago he was amazed he was that big he asked if i gave him any supplements with his dry dog food (can you believe that he didn’t even remember i had told him i was switching them to raw) well i told him i feed them raw he asked me to tell him to tell him what i give them well i told them i feed them 2% of their adult body weight 80% meat 10% bone 5% liver, and 5% organs. well he still try to give me another lecture about how bad it is for them, I told him to save it and he checked them and he said they were the healthiest dogs in his patient list, when he told me this i laughed and told him “I Told You So” oh well a vet will disagree with a raw food diet, unless he feeds that diet himself to his dogs.
I have never asked my vet about Raw in particular, but when I got my pom, and I told him what I was feeding her, her told me to feed her a major brand like Iams. His reasoning was that they have more money behind them for research. (he also sells science diet, and a dog food made by a local rescue organization. I won’t mention the name)
I feed a meat based, no grain kibble. I have thought about raw as I have some friends who do and swear by it. But, I have not had the time yet to research and learn how to do it correctly.
Hahah, that’s awesome.
I don’t understand why so many people, especially vets, don’t approve of raw diets or at least grain free diets. It just seems like common sense that’s it’s the healthiest, most natural food for dogs aka CARNIVORES. Crazies.
My vet always pushes everyone to feed science diet, so I think I know how he would feel about raw.
I don’t feed raw, I would like to, but I’m pretty sure my mom would have a heart attack or something. She thinks it’s disgusting. So, I feed him Taste of the Wild kibble, which is pretty good, I suppose. When I told my vet that and all I got was a blank stare and “….well, that would be good for dogs with allergies, I guess” and that’s it ://
Haven’t ask my vets, however the vets i asked previous are all big believers in dogs are omnivores and even got us to put our dog on home cooked diet, which including cooked v egetables, pasta or rice and meat, I’m australian. However as she aged i decided to keep with the dry dog food and add vegetables and rice or pasta most nights, as she was eating everything in eyesight.
I don’t believe in the prey model raw diet-think bone and organ meat are unbalance and far too much meat based protein, but i quite like the barf diet idea, i think it more balanced, and nutritional correct. I do occassional feed my dog raw meat, but not alot as there been a couple of deaths here from E-coli. I also used to feed her the weekly raw bones, but uncertain now as she had one of her rear chompers pulled, which makes me afraid of given her a bone due to possible choking on it, as her chomper is no longer there. She also manage to fracture a canine tooth, I guess i could still give her a bone with supervision though, she loves them.
Also high doses of liver can cause vitamin A toxicity. Raw eggs cause a reduction in Vitamin B, which are another fear of mine.
i TRIED a high protein dog food on my dog once before with DISASTEROUS result, i got a sample of Innova Evo, and gave her a tiny amount it sent her system into aggression overdrive, and she wouldn’t stop trying to attack animals and humans, which was absolute shock to see her act like that as she never had that reaction to food before
My dog nature is such as sweet, loyal, and wouldn’t hurt a flea nature, she a lab mix, gentle giant normally. I figure out she must not be able to cope with such a large amount of protein from her reaction, so allergic to amount protein. So now i don’t feed her anything more then 32%, and tend to keep it to around 28% protein
Many vets haven’t seen pets with e.coli/salmonellosis because very few people RAW feed. There is no doubt that a dog CAN be healthy on a RAW diet. In vet school, students are taught about the dangers involved with RAW feeding so it should not be surprising that vets don’t recommend it. No vet in the US or the world would recommend feeding bones to a dog. In additon to bacterial concerns, most packaged dog food provides a balanced diet, which RAW feeding may not.
To all of you brilliant RAW feeders, since you know so much about animals and you are so intelligent, why don’t you go to vet school? Answer: cause you’re really not that smart. Listen to those who care and are educated.
There is plenty of bogus RAW propaganda on the internet. All you need is a few dollars a month to start a website. I am sure there are SOME vets that do RAW, but the MAJORITY don’t. You are uneducated and crazy. If you believe a RAW diet is best then why don’t you eat RAW meat yourself? The same reason why you wouldn’t feed it to your dog. Dog’s don’t have a ’super’ digestive system/immune system. Just because you believe in RAW feeding doesn’t make you right. I believe your own research answered your questions. Vets 2, you 0.
I did search Dr. Billinghurst and everything he has to say is an opinion. I ugre you to search Veterinary Nutritionists and view their opinions because they have done the research. They also teach those vets who have already defunked your bogus theories.
And I have one question for you. Why shouldn’t dogs eat cat food? Find the answer to this question then tell me why a strictly protein diet, as you are suggesting, is healthy.
Lorraine, I have heard the finanical comments and yes, the pet food industry is worth billions. At the same time, these pet food companies have vets, many board certified nutritionists, who create these packaged diets. I believe that these vets are concerned with the health of animals over money and wouldn’t be creating such diets if they believed another method was better. Also, I don’t completely disagree with RAW feeding. I think RAW feeding is perfect for the few who choose to do it. Those who RAW feed are usually knowledgable about what they are doing. What I don’t agree with is RAW feeders trying to tell the rest of the world their method is best and that everyone else should follow them. A lot of people are not responsible enough to RAW feed. I promise all of you that if everyone RAW fed their pets the vet offices would be packed with sick, obstructed, and perforated pets.
Niko:
You are a waste of my time, but as usual, I make myself rebuke the false and misleading information. The sad part is you actually believe in what you are saying and see no possible harm in it. First, vets are taught the dangers of RAW feeding and yes, Hills does sponsor a lot of the nutrition classes. However, the people from Hills are board certified veterinary nutritionists and those teaching animal nutrition are board certified. These people went to veterinary school to benefit the animal and human communities – they are not scam artists. Again, if RAW feeding was best then there would be a billion dollar RAW feeding inititive in veterinary medicine. While I agree that money is an issue and I am not going to get into the best/worst packaged foods, I do know that animal health is of primary concern, not money.
2. My comment about being intelligent and going to vet school was sarcasm. Most people, like yourself, don’t truly understand that digestive system of dog or simple metabolic processes. I have noticed and continue to notice that you RAW people believe dogs have these invinicble digestive and immune systems that are so incredibly superior to humans (you made this clear by your hydrochloric acid comment – which i will get to). My point is while you think you know what you are talking about, you really have no clue.
3. Here comes an example of your lack of knowledge… “feeding an animal what it’s DESIGNED to eat”
Is ‘designed’ really the only verb you could come up with? . We are not talking about architecture so I am not sure what you mean by ‘design’ .Anyway, dogs have evolved over thousands of years and have been greatly influenced by humans through domestication. I would agree that pre-domestication RAW feeding may have been ideal. Today, while dogs are carinores, according to taxa., they are not obligate carnivores in relation to diet. While someone may have read this in an encyclopedia more scientific sources prove otherwise. For example, dogs produce amylase. What does amylase do? It breaks down starch. What is starch? Non-meat items such as rice or potato. So why would an animal that is only supposed to have meat secrete amylase? I am pretty sure I know your comeback for this, but we will see what you actually know. I would consider a dog an adapted carnivore.
4. Come on, really, someone as smart as yourself would really make a statement this bizarre (notice sarcasm)? Contrary to your belief, a dogs stomach is not half full with HCl. I don’t even know if that was what you mean’t, but again, you don’t know what you are talking about. Similar to a human the resting pH of a dog’s stomach is slightly acidic around pH 4-5. When food enters the stomach, gastrin and HCl as well as other enzymes are secreted into the lumen of the stomach in order to break down food. This combination of enzymes and acid drops the pH level of the stomach to between 1-2 in order to digest and breakdown protein and amino acids. And yes, a humans stomach works pretty much the same way. This low pH works to kill parasites/bacteria and break down food. Again, just so you know you are wrong, dogs don’t have a ’super’ digestive/immune system, They are very human-like and thus explains the concern for bacterial and parasitic infection. Salmoellosis, E. coli, and parasitic infections such as Salmon Poisioning do occur when pets eat RAW food.
5. Now to Taurine. I am guessing this where you thought you were really smart. Yes, i know cats need to eat Taurine, not literally, but they need it in their diet because they can’t sythesize it like dogs do. However, while i have heard of taurine deficiency in cats, I have never heard of a Taurine overdose in dogs from cat food. So, I will reluctantly give you some credit for this answer even though it is wrong. The reason it is unhealthy for dogs to eat cat food is because cat food has a much higher protein and fat content. Over an extended time period this can lead to liver probelms, etc. Yes, I know taurine is an amino acid.
Now, I have no reason to argue with you other than to provide some truth. I don’t care if I get 5 thousand thumbs down, I know what is fact and what is not. Once again, I will admit that RAW feeding can be healthy, but it is not for most pets and there are significant risks associated with it. I do ask one thing, stop promoting this imaginitive idea that dogs have this invincible digestive tract because it is simply untrue.