I’ve been looking into raw diet for my dog and was wondering if giving my dog some raw meat would make him sick or if it would be healthy? If I ate some raw food I would get sick…Wouldn’t my dog?
Here are two simple facts:
1.) If you ate raw meat you wouldn’t necessarily get sick. Humans and dogs get sick from raw meat in the exact same way – bacteria.
2.) Chicken is the #1 food allergen in dogs, but if your dog isn’t allergic then it doesn’t really matter.
ADD: the comment about wild dogs or wolves not getting sick/they don’t eat cooked food… Why do you think the estimated lifespan of a wild wolf is nearly half that of one in captivity? Getting sick from eating bacterial infested meat plays a role.
Please consult your vet because I am sure you will find they are less enthusiastic about raw diets in comparison to some of the YA people.
dog’s bodies were designed for eating raw meat
Some dogs do get some loose stools at first, until their body adjusts to the diet change- but same can be said for switching your dog to ANY diet.
Boneless raw chicken breasts are OK, but not as an overall diet. Your dog needs the bones too. Bones give a source of calcium, and there are also nutrients in the marrow. Your dog also needs some organ meats in the diet for the high nutrients found in them. “boneless” breasts are often “skinless” too.. your dog also needs the skins to provide a healthy amount of fats in the diet.
If you are going to switch to raw, I suggest you do a little research on it first, and at least get a basic idea of how to balance out meals properly. there are many raw feeding groups on yahoo that are great resources.
also,
domestic raised meats are fine. They are kept under controlled situations, and raised for human consumption. Rarely do they have any diseases that you’d have to be concerned about your dog getting.
Wild caught meats, should be frozen for at least 2 weeks to kill any potential disease or parasites before feeding to your dog.
Tulip and A Dog’s Life are 100% right. If you are serious about feeding raw, you will find it’s a lot of work to do it correctly, and you can’t just toss some meat, veggies in his dish and call it balanced.
Another site to research is http://www.monicasegal.com. She has an excellent pamphlet on raw feeding that you can buy (very inexpensive) and will guarantee you a balanced raw diet.
chicken is the base for the majority of dogs that are fed on raw diets.
Think about it like this, in the wild, dogs don’t cook their food, they don’t go to vets every day, and they are fine. Do you see wolfs roasting stuff at a camp fire? Dingos? nope.
Heres my q on it a while back and people gave great answers as to why our dogs digestive system is fine with RAW feeding: http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;…
Why not add the bone? The bone is many ways is the best bit, cleans the teeth, strengthens jaw and is very beneficial and healthy.
Its great your RAW feeding, welcome to a whole new world of dog feeding. Raw feeding is tons cheaper than kibble, for one you can ask your butchers for scraps which is free, this usually comprises of chicken skin, lamb fat and raw meaty bones. I go to an Asian butcher as their a lot cheaper than the British ones.
Best thing to start them off with for the 1st week is chicken as its nice and sensitive:
Chicken legs
Chicken wings < < nice and chewy, great for cleaning teeth
Chicken thighs
Whole baby Chicken << cleaned out but skin left on.
Chicken necks
When it comes to lamb introduce slowly as it is very rich, have a meal with more bone than meat, Lamb ribs are perfect. I dont usually feed beef and i NEVER feed pork, it has no nutritional value and i dont trust pork sources over in here in the UK.
Here are some of my favorite RAW meals for my two 18 month old Siberian Huskies(they eat twice a day):
- 1 whole baby Chicken with 5 pieces of Lamb chunks with fat left on
- 5 Chicken wings, 5 Lamb ribs
- 4 Chicken legs, half a Lambs heart each << diced
- 1 Turkey thigh, 1 diced Chicken heart, 3 Lamb ribs
- Lamb chunks with fat, 2 Chicken necks/Turkey Necks
With every meal they get some raw or partly steamed veggies:
Carrots
Broccoli
Cauliflower
Spinach << steamed
Sometimes with my two when i add it to their Raw meals they conveniently leave out their veggies, so they usually have a veggie breakfast, in which i add either Olive oil or Salmon oil >> about a handful of veggies, no more.
I like to add organs once a week:
- Lambs heart
- Chicken Heart
- Turkey Heart
I find the Liver is very rich and without fail gives my two the runs if its not cooked. Sometimes i buy Lamb or Chicken liver and boil in water, add a garlic glove and a pinch of salt for flavor, dice and wait to cool and serve with their meals, so it’s cooked but pink on the inside, usually about 15-20 mins. Organs are very cheap to buy.
The RAW meaty bones really great for cleaning the teeth and strengthening the jaw, they usually take forever to eat though. I ask the butcher if in their scraps they have any big bones with a little meat on them. If not these do well:
Lamb Shanks < < a bit pricy
Lambs Shoulder <<< some places take the mick with this piece
Ox Tail << you can get cheap if you go to the right places
A few things to ensure your feeding all they need:
1 RAW egg a week plus cracked shell << you can bake the shell for 3 mins and then crush into a powder. This gives a great source if calcium but too much of anything can have negative affects so only the one a week. Olive oil is a great source of fatty acids >>> a table spoon a day is fine, i just drizzle it over their Raw food. Salmon oil, Cod liver oil and Evening Primrose oil < < one capsule a day <<< pick your choice or rotate them all, but only ONE a day.
Okay when it comes to price these are the cheapest things at my Butcher:
- Scraps= FREE. Usually bones with a little meat on them, Chicken skin << good for fat sources, and Lamb fat <, added some of this is fine too, just not too much.
- Whole baby Chicken >> i buy 3 for £5, if not their £3 each, i like them cleaned out on the inside but with the skin on. Same goes for adult Chickens
- Lamb ribs, i can get £5 worth of meat and it last me for the week (7 days).
Another money save is to buy Lamb or Chicken mice and make little packs, puree the veggies and make portions and freeze until you want them.
I hope this helped!
ADD: Another thing is you can still feed a little kibble and you can add these:http://prizechoice.co.uk/
They are 100% RAW and already in portions for you, very cheap to buy and dogs love them. I also feed Raw salmon >> bonless and gutted.
People often confuse a raw meat diet with an all meat diet based on the assumption that a dog natural raw diet is a meat only diet. The truth is a dog cannot survive on a diet of meat alone. They are omnivores and meat should form only a part of their overall diet, whether raw, proccessed or cooked. In the wild Canids eat not only the meat, but the bones(rich in calcium), the organs and stomach and intestines (including the contents) of their prey. the stomach and intestines content are mostly composed of vegetable and plant matter, as the wild dog kill is herbivorious.
Consquently a meat only diet is unnatural and unbalanced. It is low in Iodine, Vitamin A, Vitamin B1 and calicum and has an inbalance of calicum to phosphorous, which can affect bone and teeth growth. The all meat syndrome describe in scientific studies show that animals fed meat alone (without vitamins and minerals) develop soft bones, general poor condition and sometimes die. An all meat diet is also too rich in protein and fat. Excess protein is not good for any dog breed.
Although meat is a source of protein, it has very low levels of calcium, a mineral our pets require for proper bone and tooth development. Calcium also plays an important role in blood clotting, muscle contraction and transmission of nerve impulses. But simply supplementing with calcium won’t work. Mineral nutrients are interrelated. Calcium and phosphorus have a scientifically established relationship in the formation of bones and teeth, provided a proper balance is maintained. This balance is usually not present in meat. If large quantities of raw meat are fed over time, skeletal problems may develop.
Liver is often thought of as a “healthy” meat because it has a high level of Vitamin A, a fat-soluble vitamin that is stored by the body. And for humans who eat other things as well, it can be healthy. But when liver is fed to pets in excessive quantities over a period of time, Vitamin A toxicity can result. This can lead to improper bone development, lameness and bone decalcification.
Raw meat carries the threat of bacteria and parasites, including salmonella. The risk of salmonellosis is always present when pets are fed raw meat diets. Certain species of tapeworm can be found in raw meat and passed on to a pet who ingests the meat.
For some reason owners believe that meat is good and that they are doing the best for their animal by feeding the “best steak” or “fresh liver” to their pet. Meat as part of a balanced diet is good, particularly for cats which are strict carnivores. It provides an excellent source of protein and other nutrients, but it must be mixed with other ingredients to create a properly balanced ration..
The reason is that meat and offal are deficient in calcium, and relatively high in phosphorus. As a result, if you feed an exclusively meat or offal diet your poor pet will have to maintain it’s blood calcium levels by removing calcium from it’s body stores. As you know, most of the body’s calcium reserves are in the bony part of the skeleton. So, your pet’s clever hormone system will remove calcium from the bone to keep the amount circulating in the bloodstream “normal”. The result is decalcification of the bone, which leads to thin, brittle bones. These bones can fracture very easily – even the act of walking can cause a fracture. Unless the dietary problem is corrected your veterinarian won’t even be able to repair the fractures because the bones won’t heal properly. Eventually, untreated animals will become totally debilitated, and possibly paralysed if the spine fractures .
Here are two simple facts:
1.) If you ate raw meat you wouldn’t necessarily get sick. Humans and dogs get sick from raw meat in the exact same way – bacteria.
2.) Chicken is the #1 food allergen in dogs, but if your dog isn’t allergic then it doesn’t really matter.
ADD: the comment about wild dogs or wolves not getting sick/they don’t eat cooked food… Why do you think the estimated lifespan of a wild wolf is nearly half that of one in captivity? Getting sick from eating bacterial infested meat plays a role.
Please consult your vet because I am sure you will find they are less enthusiastic about raw diets in comparison to some of the YA people.
dog’s bodies were designed for eating raw meat
Some dogs do get some loose stools at first, until their body adjusts to the diet change- but same can be said for switching your dog to ANY diet.
Boneless raw chicken breasts are OK, but not as an overall diet. Your dog needs the bones too. Bones give a source of calcium, and there are also nutrients in the marrow. Your dog also needs some organ meats in the diet for the high nutrients found in them. “boneless” breasts are often “skinless” too.. your dog also needs the skins to provide a healthy amount of fats in the diet.
If you are going to switch to raw, I suggest you do a little research on it first, and at least get a basic idea of how to balance out meals properly. there are many raw feeding groups on yahoo that are great resources.
also,
domestic raised meats are fine. They are kept under controlled situations, and raised for human consumption. Rarely do they have any diseases that you’d have to be concerned about your dog getting.
Wild caught meats, should be frozen for at least 2 weeks to kill any potential disease or parasites before feeding to your dog.
Tulip and A Dog’s Life are 100% right. If you are serious about feeding raw, you will find it’s a lot of work to do it correctly, and you can’t just toss some meat, veggies in his dish and call it balanced.
Another site to research is http://www.monicasegal.com. She has an excellent pamphlet on raw feeding that you can buy (very inexpensive) and will guarantee you a balanced raw diet.
chicken is the base for the majority of dogs that are fed on raw diets.
Think about it like this, in the wild, dogs don’t cook their food, they don’t go to vets every day, and they are fine. Do you see wolfs roasting stuff at a camp fire? Dingos? nope.
unless it has some diesase its fine
Heres my q on it a while back and people gave great answers as to why our dogs digestive system is fine with RAW feeding: http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;…
Why not add the bone? The bone is many ways is the best bit, cleans the teeth, strengthens jaw and is very beneficial and healthy.
Its great your RAW feeding, welcome to a whole new world of dog feeding. Raw feeding is tons cheaper than kibble, for one you can ask your butchers for scraps which is free, this usually comprises of chicken skin, lamb fat and raw meaty bones. I go to an Asian butcher as their a lot cheaper than the British ones.
Best thing to start them off with for the 1st week is chicken as its nice and sensitive:
Chicken legs
Chicken wings < < nice and chewy, great for cleaning teeth
Chicken thighs
Whole baby Chicken << cleaned out but skin left on.
Chicken necks
When it comes to lamb introduce slowly as it is very rich, have a meal with more bone than meat, Lamb ribs are perfect. I dont usually feed beef and i NEVER feed pork, it has no nutritional value and i dont trust pork sources over in here in the UK.
Here are some of my favorite RAW meals for my two 18 month old Siberian Huskies(they eat twice a day):
- 1 whole baby Chicken with 5 pieces of Lamb chunks with fat left on
- 5 Chicken wings, 5 Lamb ribs
- 4 Chicken legs, half a Lambs heart each << diced
- 1 Turkey thigh, 1 diced Chicken heart, 3 Lamb ribs
- Lamb chunks with fat, 2 Chicken necks/Turkey Necks
With every meal they get some raw or partly steamed veggies:
Carrots
Broccoli
Cauliflower
Spinach << steamed
Sometimes with my two when i add it to their Raw meals they conveniently leave out their veggies, so they usually have a veggie breakfast, in which i add either Olive oil or Salmon oil >> about a handful of veggies, no more.
I like to add organs once a week:
- Lambs heart
- Chicken Heart
- Turkey Heart
I find the Liver is very rich and without fail gives my two the runs if its not cooked. Sometimes i buy Lamb or Chicken liver and boil in water, add a garlic glove and a pinch of salt for flavor, dice and wait to cool and serve with their meals, so it’s cooked but pink on the inside, usually about 15-20 mins. Organs are very cheap to buy.
The RAW meaty bones really great for cleaning the teeth and strengthening the jaw, they usually take forever to eat though. I ask the butcher if in their scraps they have any big bones with a little meat on them. If not these do well:
Lamb Shanks < < a bit pricy
Lambs Shoulder <<< some places take the mick with this piece
Ox Tail << you can get cheap if you go to the right places
A few things to ensure your feeding all they need:
1 RAW egg a week plus cracked shell << you can bake the shell for 3 mins and then crush into a powder. This gives a great source if calcium but too much of anything can have negative affects so only the one a week. Olive oil is a great source of fatty acids >>> a table spoon a day is fine, i just drizzle it over their Raw food. Salmon oil, Cod liver oil and Evening Primrose oil < < one capsule a day <<< pick your choice or rotate them all, but only ONE a day.
Okay when it comes to price these are the cheapest things at my Butcher:
- Scraps= FREE. Usually bones with a little meat on them, Chicken skin << good for fat sources, and Lamb fat <, added some of this is fine too, just not too much.
- Whole baby Chicken >> i buy 3 for £5, if not their £3 each, i like them cleaned out on the inside but with the skin on. Same goes for adult Chickens
- Lamb ribs, i can get £5 worth of meat and it last me for the week (7 days).
Another money save is to buy Lamb or Chicken mice and make little packs, puree the veggies and make portions and freeze until you want them.
I hope this helped!
ADD: Another thing is you can still feed a little kibble and you can add these:http://prizechoice.co.uk/
They are 100% RAW and already in portions for you, very cheap to buy and dogs love them. I also feed Raw salmon >> bonless and gutted.
People often confuse a raw meat diet with an all meat diet based on the assumption that a dog natural raw diet is a meat only diet. The truth is a dog cannot survive on a diet of meat alone. They are omnivores and meat should form only a part of their overall diet, whether raw, proccessed or cooked. In the wild Canids eat not only the meat, but the bones(rich in calcium), the organs and stomach and intestines (including the contents) of their prey. the stomach and intestines content are mostly composed of vegetable and plant matter, as the wild dog kill is herbivorious.
Consquently a meat only diet is unnatural and unbalanced. It is low in Iodine, Vitamin A, Vitamin B1 and calicum and has an inbalance of calicum to phosphorous, which can affect bone and teeth growth. The all meat syndrome describe in scientific studies show that animals fed meat alone (without vitamins and minerals) develop soft bones, general poor condition and sometimes die. An all meat diet is also too rich in protein and fat. Excess protein is not good for any dog breed.
Although meat is a source of protein, it has very low levels of calcium, a mineral our pets require for proper bone and tooth development. Calcium also plays an important role in blood clotting, muscle contraction and transmission of nerve impulses. But simply supplementing with calcium won’t work. Mineral nutrients are interrelated. Calcium and phosphorus have a scientifically established relationship in the formation of bones and teeth, provided a proper balance is maintained. This balance is usually not present in meat. If large quantities of raw meat are fed over time, skeletal problems may develop.
Liver is often thought of as a “healthy” meat because it has a high level of Vitamin A, a fat-soluble vitamin that is stored by the body. And for humans who eat other things as well, it can be healthy. But when liver is fed to pets in excessive quantities over a period of time, Vitamin A toxicity can result. This can lead to improper bone development, lameness and bone decalcification.
Raw meat carries the threat of bacteria and parasites, including salmonella. The risk of salmonellosis is always present when pets are fed raw meat diets. Certain species of tapeworm can be found in raw meat and passed on to a pet who ingests the meat.
For some reason owners believe that meat is good and that they are doing the best for their animal by feeding the “best steak” or “fresh liver” to their pet. Meat as part of a balanced diet is good, particularly for cats which are strict carnivores. It provides an excellent source of protein and other nutrients, but it must be mixed with other ingredients to create a properly balanced ration..
The reason is that meat and offal are deficient in calcium, and relatively high in phosphorus. As a result, if you feed an exclusively meat or offal diet your poor pet will have to maintain it’s blood calcium levels by removing calcium from it’s body stores. As you know, most of the body’s calcium reserves are in the bony part of the skeleton. So, your pet’s clever hormone system will remove calcium from the bone to keep the amount circulating in the bloodstream “normal”. The result is decalcification of the bone, which leads to thin, brittle bones. These bones can fracture very easily – even the act of walking can cause a fracture. Unless the dietary problem is corrected your veterinarian won’t even be able to repair the fractures because the bones won’t heal properly. Eventually, untreated animals will become totally debilitated, and possibly paralysed if the spine fractures .
as far as i know, chicken is bad for dogs